Fein 9-20-25 Turbo-II 9-Gallon Wet/Dry Vacuum with Auto-Start
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The Fein vacuums / dust extractors are designed for heavy, continuous, industrial use, wet or dry. The improved, rugged anti-tipping design features a powerful 120volt two-stage motor that offers bypass cooling, ensuring a long motor life. Vacuum performance measuring at 90 to 99 inches of water lift means Fein dust extractors produce far greater suction than the competition, at an average of 60 decibels. All three models come with electronic variable suction control with LED indicator allowing for maximum performance, auto-start function, and integrated drain plug. Accessory filters are available that capture particles down to .3 micron (HePa). The Fein dust extractors when combined with Feins random orbit sanders are an integral part of Feins 98 dust-free sanding system. Plug your random orbit sanding system into a Fein dust extractor. The tools switch turns the dust extractor on and off and provides a ten second delay after shut off to clear the hose. Maximum performance can be achieved by adjusting the electronic variable suction control. Fein dust extractors handle power tools with inputs of 5 to 2000 watts (.05 to 18 amps)..../ Fein 9-20-25 Turbo-II 9-Gallon Wet/Dry Vacuum with Auto-Start / Auto
- Durable, compact, quiet, producing an average of 60 dB (A) noise level at 3.5-Feet
- Electronic variable suction control with LED indicator
- Rugged and improved new design: The new Fein dust extractors are designed for heavy, continuous, industrial use. The new design has an optimized shape and 6 wheels instead of 4. This reduces tipping
- Tremendous static water lift: 90-Inch
- Auto start for dust extraction, 19-Amp switch on vac allows you to plug in your router, miter saw, portable table saw
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Bosch, Shop Vac, Miele accessories that are essential; comparison to 16 gallon Shop Vac : Fein 9-20-25 Turbo-II 9-Gallon Wet/Dry Vacuum with Auto-Start
Apologies for the length of this review, but I bought just about every connector and adapter sold by Amazon to find those that work, and this provides the results of that search. As well as a comparison to a new top-of-the-line Shop Vac.
Listed below are the necessary connectors to use the Fein Turbo Vac I hose with the Fein Multimaster; to use the Fein I hose with Shop Vac 2.5" accessories; and with Dyson accessories. As I noted in my review of the Fein Multimaster, the Multimaster dust extractor doesn't even connect to their own Fein Turbo Vac I hose end without some type of modification. The Multimaster dust extractor comes with two connectors, small and large, referenced below. Neither of these work directly on the Fein hose, and if you use some soft plastic sleeves under the connectors, it will be difficult to get the connector on and and off the hose very many times. What is needed, and what Fein should have provided, are connectors that enable the Fein hose to be easily connected and disconnected from the their own Multimaster as well as other US and European accessories. Fein does make a rubber stepped adapter that works with a variety of other connections and accessories, but it is less rigid or has to be cut down compared to the below. NOTE that all connections mentioned below are using the Fein hose that comes with the Fein Turbo Vac I. If the Fein II or III come with larger hoses, then the below may not apply, as I own and have only tested with the Fein Turbo Vac I hose.
(1) CONNECTORS -
Fein Turbo Vac I to Fein Multimaster dust extractor: The Vac connects to the Bosch VAC003 which connects to the smallest connector on the Multimaster dust extractor. Buy a Bosch VAC003. I just leave the Bosch permanently connected to the smallest connector.
[[ASIN:B0000AV77S Bosch VAC003 Airsweep Vacuum Hose Adapter]]
Fein Turbo Vac I hose to Shop Vac 2.5 inch accessories - use Shop Vac 90649 connector. It is a tight fit on the Fein hose, but it works
[[ASIN:B0002FUOR2 Shop-Vac 9064900 2-1/2-to-1-1/2-Inch Conversion Unit]]
Fein Turbo Vac I hose to Dyson attachments (at least those that come up with the top of the line Dyson) - Fein hose to Bosch VAC003 to a Dyson provided converter to the specific Dyson attachment
(2) THE BEST ATTACHMENT FOR HARDWOOD FLOORS FOR THE FEIN TURBO VAC --
The Miele SBB400-3 XL Parquet Twister Floor Tool
[[ASIN:B001BN8Z2K Miele SBB400-3 XL Parquet Twister Floor Tool]]
Don't buy the Fein kit or other generic floor attachments if you want a brush for hardwood floors. The Fein attachment and those other generic attachments only move left and right, so if you push up or down on the tube, you lose suction as the head is no longer aligned with the floor. The Miele is much better, and fits perfectly on the metal tube available for the Fein. The Miele pivots both up and down and left to right, as it is "double jointed," and is very maneuverable -- much more than the Fein or any other generic attachment for hardwood floors. The Miele is entirely soft horse hair with no wheels. The hair is what hits the hardwood. No wheels that might jam or scratch the wood, but it moves across hardwood floors just as easily.
I use the Fein I as a tank type cleaner on my main floor, which is all hardwoods. Vacs with plastic heads like Dyson or Hoover scratch hardwood floors, based on reviews, whereas the Fein I with the Miele accessory would never do that.
(3) HEPA FILTER -- I ordered the Gore HEPA filter for Rigid/Craftsmen. It fits perfectly on the Turbo Vac I. It is a snug fit, which is a good thing, so it won't fall off as it hangs down. You can attach it more permanently with a long carriage bolt and screw. Many thanks to another reviewer of the Turbo Vac who pointed this out, and it was based on his review that I ordered the Gore filter for Rigid/Craftsmen. It is 1/3 of the cost of the Fein HEPA filter.
(4) COMPARISON OF FEIN TURBO VAC I TO NEWER MODEL OF 16 GALLON SHOP VAC:
I compared to the newest model of Shop Vac 16 gallon, the Ultra Pro 16 gallon
[[ASIN:B003JQJWAQ Shop-Vac 9552600 6.5-Peak HP Ultra Pro Series Wet or Dry Vacuum with Vacuum Cart, 16-Gallon]]
NOISE - One of the big selling point for the Fein is claimed to be the lower noise level, as well as the auto on-off (see below). I haven't bothered to measure the noise level with a meter, but in my opinion the Fein Turbo Vac I is only a little quieter, as compared to the above Shop Vac. I don't personally believe the noise difference justifies the cost difference. Or that the Shop Vac is so much louder as to be objectionable. Note that the more powerful Fein II or III would be louder than the Fein I, and then I wonder if the Fein II and III really are any quieter than the newest big 16 gallon Shop Vacs, but I haven't compared. Since the Fein II or III are louder than the Fein I, and the Fein I is only a little quieter than the Shop Vac, I assume the Shop Vac, the Fein II and the Fein III have similar noise levels. Comments that the Fein is a lot quieter than Shop Vacs might be based on older Shop Vac models. I compared to the newest Shop Vac model that is supposed to be quieter.
COST - The Shop Vac is 1/3 less than a Fein I and half the price of of the Fein II or III. Shop Vac has many more accessories, that are also far lower in cost. (One of the most useful Shop Vac accessories is a separate head for vacuuming up and mulching leaves with a huge 3" hose. It fits the above 16 gallon Shop Vac, and it really works.) The Shop Vac filters and bags are lower in cost. Shop Vac sells bags for dry wall dust. The Fein II has a HEPA bag, but that may not work with the Fein I or III.
ACCESSORY AND HOSE STORAGE - None at all on the Fein. This is significant flaw in the design. You can buy a basket for $50 to strap on the top. I haven't used that, and it appears, based on the photo, to interfere with the handle on the top in terms of carrying the Fein from one location to another. In any case, Fein should have provided a means to store acccessories or the hose,and not be charging $50 for a little strap-on basket.
DUST EXTRACTION - The Fein has auto on and off. You can plug a 20 amp tool into the Fein, and the Fein vacuum turns on and off automatically with the tool. There is a Shop Vac, different from that listed above, that has a similar auto on-off feature, but check the amp rating -- the Shop Vac might not work with really powerful tools based on the reviews. The Fein does.
(5) OTHER USES FOR FEIN I - The Fein Turbo Vac I gives me triple duty, for dust extraction with auto on-off for the shop tools; as a tank type vac for hardwood floors on my main floor, and finally, as a semi-portable vac. With regards to dust extraction, the smallest Fein can suck up a lot of dust from shop tools, and I don't need anything larger for that. But if I did need more capacity for dust extraction, I could, of course, use the Shop Vac, and I listed the necessary connector to go from the Fein Mulimaster to the Shop Vac in my review of the Multimaster Top Pro. With regards to using it as a tank type vac cleaner, my entire main floor is hardwoods. I use the small Fein with the Miele head for the hardwood floors. The Fein casters work really well, so it is easy to move it on hardwood floors. The rubber edge around the Fein also prevents it from damaging anything it bumps into, which is better than many tank type vacs. With regards to the Fein I as a portable unit, it is also light enough to carry to any quick jobs where I need a portable vac. This made more sense than investing another $100 in one of the portable Shop Vacs, which get bad reviews. The Fein I is only a little less portable, and a little larger, but it works much better as a portable vac. And it is completely impractical to lug the above 16 gallon Shop Vac up and down my stairs. So I use the Fein I as a tank type vac on my main hardwood floors; as a portable vac; and for dust extraction with tools. Your mileage may vary depending on what you already own and need. For my own use, I bought the above Shop Vac to use in my basement and garage as a vac, and outside as a mulcher with the great Shop Vac mulching accessory. If I need a wet vac for a lot of water, I will use the Shop Vac. The Shop Vac can be ordered from Amazon with a cart, that inclues storage for accessories, and large rear wheels to pull or push around. My only carpeted area is also in the basement, and I use a Dyson for that.
(6) CONCLUSION - Personally, with regards to the Fein II or III, I believe you get better value for your money if you buy the above Shop Vac. I'll bet the noise level is about the same, since the Fein I is only a little quieter than the new Shop Vac, and the Fein II and III are louder than the Fein I according the published specs. The Shop Vac is simply better value for half the price, even if it is not built quite as nice as the Fein. You will, however, have to turn the Shop Vac on and off with shop tools, as there is no automatic feature. If you really want the auto on feature, and need a big unit, then you can pay twice as much for a Fein II or III. Some of you with shops who will only use a vac for dust extraction might want a more specialized Fein II or III with auto on-off, If you work all day in a shop, the cost difference might be justified. But then you have to deal with the hassle of the German hoses with weird metric connections. If Fein really wanted to sell their units in the American market, they would provide the connectors, and even make their vacs work with their own Multimaster shop tool. Fein hasn't done that, and IMHO, Fein has ignored the American market for that very reason. I ordered every connector sold on the Amazon site to find the ones that work with Fein and to even connect Fein's Multimaster to their own Fein Turbo Vac. If you stick with Shop Vac, there is a wide range of attachments. Many more than for the Fein, and the Shop Vac attachments, bags and filters cost far, far less. The mulcher for the Shop Vac is a great accessory, and not available for the larger Feins.
As it is, I may have been nuts to buy both the Fein I and the Shop Vac, but I didn't already own a tank type vac for my main floor or a portable vac, so I could use the Fein I for those purposes -- as well as for dust extraction. Others may need a big unit devoted only to dust extraction and might consider the auto on-off feature to be a necessity.
One final correction -- many web sites state that the Fein I has a valve to open to empty any water. It does NOT have such a valve, so is not very practical to use as a wet vac. Anyway, it is too small for that. Get a big Shop Vac for a wet vac.
